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Thursday, March 3, 2011

You'd be supprised who is packin' heat at your local church or even your local school.

By Zee

Since 1966, there have at least been 109 shootings at schools, claiming 228 victims; and at least 19 shootings at churches claiming at least 57 victims. [1] Given this trend of violence, many preachers and principals have started packing more than just books in their briefcases. Many are now also armed.

For example, Texas Law says:

(a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):
(1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution;
(f) It is not a defense to prosecution under this section that the actor possessed a handgun and was licensed to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.


This means that if a school authorizes an individual, they can carry a gun there legally. Naturally, any principal who wanted to carry would issue himself such an authorization in the form of a brief letter. The same goes for teachers and other administrators.

Here are just a few examples of Principals and Teachers Packin' Heat at Private Schools:

The Harrold TX school district has decided to allow its 25 employees to carry concealed weapons while at work. The employees must first have a concealed handgun license from the state, be approved by the school board and go through other training as assigned by the district.
What do parents think? We talked to some of them as they dropped their kids off for the first day of school today. Most were in full support.

Colorado allows private citizens to carry at private schools.

And it is perfectly legal for any CHL licensed individual to carry in church.

Here are just a few examples of Pastors (and their congregation) packin' heat in the church:
The Rev. Lawrence Adams teaches his flock at the Westside Bible Church to turn the other cheek. Just in case, though, the 54-year-old retired police lieutenant also wears a handgun under his robe.

The Rev. William Revely, who sometimes wears his .357-caliber handgun while preaching at the Holy Hope Heritage Church in Detroit, does not worry whether it might be wrong for a man of God to carry a firearm in church.

"I've always felt that the only way to handle a bear in a bear meeting is to have something you can handle a bear with," said the 68-year-old pastor, who practices at a gun range with another pastor. "We have to be realistic. I know too many people who've been shot, carjacked."

William Revely of the Holy Hope Heritage Church in Detroit carries a gun in the pulpit. So does Reverend Lawrence Adams of the Westside Bible Church.

“As a pastor, I’m referred to as a shepherd,” says Adams. “Shepherds have the responsibility of watching over their flock. Do I want to hurt somebody? Absolutely not.”

Pastor Mark Byers at the Calvary Christian Church in Royal Oak urges the congregation to get concealed weapons permits and carry firearms to church.

Reverend Anthony L. Winfield, Evangelical Christian Minister not only packs a pistol in the pulpit, but hosts a pro-gun website called pistolpackingpreacher.com


This is a relevant excerpt from a well known passage regarding "Sheep, Sheepdogs and Wolves" from the book, On Combat, by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, U.S. Army (Ret.)

many officers carry their weapons in church. They are well concealed in ankle holsters, shoulder holsters or inside-the-belt holsters tucked into the small of their backs. Anytime you go to some form of religious service, there is a very good chance that a police officer in your congregation is carrying. You will never know if there is such an individual in your place of worship, until the wolf appears to slaughter you and your loved ones.

I was training a group of police officers in Texas, and during the break, one officer asked his friend if he carried his weapon in church. The other cop replied, “I will never be caught without my gun in church.” I asked why he felt so strongly about this, and he told me about a police officer he knew who was at a church massacre in Ft. Worth, Texas, in 1999. In that incident, a mentally deranged individual came into the church and opened fire, gunning down 14 people. He said that officer believed he could have saved every life that day if he had been carrying his gun. His own son was shot, and all he could do was throw himself on the boy’s body and wait to die. That cop looked me in the eye and said, “Do you have any idea how hard it would be to live with yourself after that?”

Some individuals would be horrified if they knew this police officer was carrying a weapon in church. They might call him paranoid and would probably scorn him. Yet these same individuals would be enraged and would call for “heads to roll” if they found out that the airbags in their cars were defective, or that the fire extinguisher and fire sprinklers in their kids’ school did not work. They can accept the fact that fires and traffic accidents can happen and that there must be safeguards against them. Their only response to the wolf, though, is denial, and all too often their response to the sheepdog is scorn and disdain. But the sheepdog quietly asks himself, “Do you have any idea how hard it would be to live with yourself if your loved ones were attacked and killed, and you had to stand there helplessly because you were unprepared for that day?”


[1] Chronology of School shootings:

Date Locaiton Victims
1966 1-Aug University of Texas Massacre Austin, Texas 16
1968 8-Feb SC State killings1 Orangeburg, South Carolina 3
1970 4-May Kent State shootings1 Kent, Ohio 4
1970 May14 Jackson, Mississippi 2
1974 30-Dec Olean High School shooting1 Olean, New York 3
1976 12-Jul California State University, Fullerton massacre Fullerton, California 7
1979 29-Jan Cleveland Elementary School shooting San Diego, California 2
1982 7-Apr Deer Creek Middle School shooting Littleton, Colorado 1
1983 20-Jan Parkway South Middle School shooting Manchester, Missouri 2
1985 21-Jan Goddard Middle School shooting Goddard, Kansas 1
1985 10-Dec Portland Junior High School shooting Portland, Connecticut 1
1986 6-May Pine Forest Senior High School Fayetteville, North Carolina 0
1988 11-Feb Pinellas Park High School shooting Largo, Florida 1
1988 20-May Hubbard Woods School shooting Winnetka, Illinois 1
1988 16-Dec Atlantic Shores Christian School shooting Chesapeake, Virginia 1
1989 17-Jan Cleveland School massacre Stockton, California 6
1991 1-Nov University of Iowa shooting Iowa City, Iowa 6
1992 1-May Lindhurst High School shooting Olivehurst, California 4
1992 11-Sep Palo Duro High School shooting Amarillo, Texas 0
1992 6-Nov Berkner High School shooting Richardson, Texas 1
1992 20-Nov Edward Tilden High School shooting Chicago, Illinois 1
1992 14-Dec Simon's Rock College of Bard shooting Great Barrington, Massachusetts 2
1993 18-Jan East Carter High School shooting Grayson, Kentucky 2
1993 21-Jan Fairfax High School shooting Los Angeles, California 1
1993 1-Feb Amityville High School shooting Amityville, New York 1
1993 22-Feb Reseda High School shooting Reseda, California 1
1993 17-Sep Central Middle School shooting Sheridan, Wyoming 1
1993 1-Dec Wauwatosa West High School shooting Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 1
1994 12-Apr Margaret Leary Elementary School shooting Butte, Montana 1
1994 12-Oct Grimsley High School shooting Greensboro, North Carolina 1
1994 7-Nov Wickliffe Middle School shooting Wickliffe, Ohio 1
1995 12-Oct Blackville-Hilda High School shooting Blackville, South Carolina 2
1995 15-Nov Richland High School shooting Lynnville, Tennessee 2
1996 2-Feb Frontier Middle School shooting Moses Lake, Washington 3
1996 2-Feb Hamilton High School shooting Scottdale, Georgia 1
1996 15-Aug San Diego State University shooting San Diego, California 3
1996 17-Sep Hetzel Union Building shooting State College, Pennsylvania 1
1997 19-Feb Bethel Regional High School shooting Bethel, Alaska 2
1997 1-Oct Pearl High School shooting Pearl, Mississippi 2
1997 1-Dec Heath High School shooting Paducah, Kentucky 3
1998 24-Mar Westside Middle School shooting Jonesboro, Arkansas 5
1998 24-Apr Parker Middle School dance shooting1 Edinboro, Pennsylvania 1
1998 20-May Thurston High School shooting Springfield, Oregon 2
1999 20-Apr Columbine High School massacre Littleton, Colorado 13
1999 20-May Heritage High School shooting Conyers, Georgia 0
1999 6-Dec Fort Gibson Middle School shooting Fort Gibson, Oklahoma 0
2000 26-May Lake Worth Middle School shooting Lake Worth, Florida 1
2000 28-Aug University of Arkansas shooting Fayetteville, Arkansas 2
2000 Feb-29 Buell Elementary School shooting Mount Morris Township, Michigan 1
2001 5-Mar Santana High School shooting Santee, California 2
2001 22-Mar Granite Hills High School shooting El Cajon, California 0
2002 15-Jan Martin Luther King, Jr. High School shooting Manhattan, New York 0
2002 16-Jan Appalachian School of Law shooting Grundy, Virginia 3
2003 14-Apr John McDonogh High School shooting New Orleans, Louisiana 1
2003 24-Apr Red Lion Area Junior High School shootings Red Lion, Pennsylvania 2
2003 9-May Case Western Reserve University shooting Cleveland, Ohio 1
2003 24-Sep Rocori High School shooting Cold Spring, Minnesota 2
2004 9-Feb Columbia High School shooting East Greenbush, New York 0
2004 4-Apr Fairleigh Dickinson University shooting Florham Park, New Jersey 2
2004 7-May Randallstown High School shooting Randallstown, Maryland 0
2005 21-Mar Red Lake Senior High School massacre Red Lake, Minnesota 8
2005 8-Nov Campbell County High School shooting Jacksboro, Tennessee 1
2006 14-Mar Pine Middle School shooting Reno, Nevada 0
2006 24-Aug Essex Elementary School shooting[12] Essex, Vermont 2
2006 30-Aug Orange High School shooting Hillsborough, North Carolina 1
2006 27-Sep Platte Canyon High School shooting Bailey, Colorado 2
2006 29-Sep Weston High School shooting Cazenovia, Wisconsin 1
2006 2-Oct Amish school shooting Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania 6
2007 3-Jan Henry Foss High School shooting Tacoma, Washington 1
2007 8-Mar Herbert Henry Dow High School Midland, Michigan 1
2007 24-Mar University of North Carolina at Greensboro Greensboro, North Carolina 0
2007 2-Apr University of Washington shooting Seattle, Washington 2
2007 16-Apr Virginia Tech massacre Blacksburg, Virginia 32
2007 21-Sep Delaware State University shooting Dover, Delaware 1
2007 10-Oct SuccessTech Academy shooting Cleveland, Ohio 1
2008 8-Feb Louisiana Technical College shooting Baton Rouge, Louisiana 3
2008 11-Feb Mitchell High School shooting Memphis, Tennessee 0
2008 12-Feb E.O. Green School shooting Oxnard, California 1
2008 14-Feb Northern Illinois University massacre DeKalb, Illinois 6
2008 9-Mar Davidson High School Shooting Mobile, Alabama 1
2008 21-Aug Central High School shooting Knoxville, Tennessee 1
2008 16-Oct Henry Ford High School shooting Detroit, Michigan 1
2008 27-Oct 2008 University of Central Arkansas shootings Conway, Arkansas 2
2008 12-Nov Dillard High School shooting Fort Lauderdale, Florida 1
2009 10-Apr Henry Ford Community College shooting Dearborn, Michigan 2
2009 30-Apr Covina High School shooting Covina, California 0
2009 1-May Wesleyan University1 Middletown, Connecticut 1
2009 5-May Canandaigua Academy shooting Canandaigua, New York 1
2009 18-May Harvard University Cambridge, Massachusetts 1
2009 18-May Larose-Cut Off Middle School shooting Larose, Louisiana 1
2009 2-Sep Skyline College shooting San Bruno, California 0
2009 3-Sep Atlanta University Center Atlanta, Georgia 1
2009 16-Sep Deer Valley High School shooting Antioch, California 0
2009 8-Dec Northern Virginia Community College Woodbridge, Virginia 0
2010 5-Feb Discovery Middle School Madison, Alabama 1
2010 12-Feb University of Alabama in Huntsville Huntsville, Alabama 3
2010 23-Feb Deer Creek Middle School Jefferson County, Colorado 0
2010 26-Feb Birney Elementary School Tacoma, Washington 1
2010 9-Mar Ohio State University Columbus, Ohio 2
2010 17-Aug Belleville Township HS East Belleville, Illinois 1
2010 28-Sep University of Texas at Austin Austin, Texas 1
2010 1-Oct Alisal High School Salinas, California 1
2010 3-Oct Mid-Atlantic Christian University Elizabeth City, North Carolina 1
2010 8-Oct Kelly Elementary School Carlsbad, California 0
2010 29-Nov Marinette High School Marinette, Wisconsin 1
2011 5-Jan Millard South High School Omaha, Nebraska 2
2011 17-Jan Gardena High School Los Angeles, California ??

TOTAL 109 Shootings, 228 Victims

Read more at http://www.wikipedia.com

[2] Chronology of Church Shootings:

Date Locaiton Victims
1999 16-Sep Wedgewood Baptist Church in Fort Worth, Texas 7
2003 3-Oct Turner Monumental AME church in Kirkwood GA 3
2003 Catholic Church newar Detroit. 1
2005 12-Mar Living Church of God in Milwaukee 7
2006 26-Feb Zion Hope Baptist Church Michigan 2
2006 9-May College Park GA 1
2006 21-May Jesus Christ Church Louisiana 4
2006 2-Oct Lancaster County, Pa. Amish school religious site. 5
2007 20-May Moscow, Idaho, Presbyterian Church standoff 3
2007 12-Aug Missouri Micronesian church 3
2007 Dec Christian Youth Mission church in Denver CO 2
2007 Dec Megachurch Colorado Springs, CO 2
2008 27-Jul Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church, Knoxville, TN 9
2009 8-Mar First Baptist Church in Maryville, Ill. 3
2009 Jan St. Dominic's Youngstown, Ohio 1
2010 10-Feb New Gethsemane Church of God in Christ. Richmond, Calif., 2
2010 7-Sep Mormon Church in CA 1
2010 24-Sep Walnut Park Casa De Mi Gloria Church in Garland, Texas 1
2010 24-Sep St. Dominic's Youngstown, Ohio 1

TOTAL: 19 Shootings, 58 Victims

Read more: Church shootings on rise in U.S.

1 comment:

  1. 2 points: Your Hitler quote is bogus. He never said something like that.

    And church carry laws vary widely from state to state. In Ohio, you have to have the pastor's permission, to carry concealed, but no permit or permission is required for open carry. In Oklahoma, you can carry with a permit. Some states don't require CC permits.